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," but i don't get it. >> a much stronger reaction from former ge ceo jack welch who tweeted unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and from florida tea party congressman alan west. he put up i agree with former ge ceo jack welch. chicago-style work involved it. solis responded to the suggestion the numbers were cooked. >> i'm insulted when i hear that, because we have a very professional civil service organization where you have top, top economists that work at the bls. they've been doing these calculations. these are our best trained and best skilled individuals that have been working in the field. it's really ludicrous to hear that kind of statement. >> let's bring in our "news nation" political panel today. john harwood and zachary ca caribel. thank you, gentlemen, for joining me. john, i want to come to you first because i want to play what president obama and governor romney said just a short time ago reacting to the jobs reports. let me play those first, both of them. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last
about the jack welch. do we have that confirmed? i don't know that we do. jack welch may have resigned -- >> we don't have it confirmed. >> this is how we do things on fx. >> tweet about it right. >> i read the story. a story in fortune that says jack welch has resigned from his columnist job at fortune and reuters in the wake of the conspira his conspiracy tweet. >> it appears that he -- appears he was miffed about the fact that those publications wrote stories critical of what he had said. >> i wrote a critical story. sister publication. >> just for the record was totally insane. >> totally insane conspiracy theory, one of many floating out there. the repercussions -- >> also in the same piece asked to see obama's birth certificate. >> yes. >> i think his college records he's looking for now. >> how will jack welch pay the represent now? >> we're all worried. >> i'm sure you'll be taking up jobbers and birthers in your -- >> just become 47%. >> i am open to take that job if they need someone. >> thank you to my panel, john, rana, kamal and david's ebook, "47% uncovering the romney vi
did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data, correct? >> well, absolutely. >> good news is all this conspiracy may open up even more jobs. demand for the manufacture and sale of tin foil is increasing as we speak. essential material for all those tin hats. here in new york jonathan alter, a columnist for bloomberg view and democratic strategist julian epstein and john harwood, chief washington correspondent and political writer for "the new york times." julian, so, the bureau of labor statistics is now to be lumped in with false memory syndrome, satanic abuse, and the abduction of children byu fos in terms of
this week, but we did get numbers mixed and consumer confidence is good and unemployment and yet, jack welch, the former ceo of general electric as you just mentioned on squawk out on twitter today. he's been obviously critical of the white house for years now, but he says unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. that's the former head of a very large company. >> i'm on tv, and i remember jack sent me a fax when i was first on with mark haynes. i like you. i love jack. i'm trying to reconcile jack with the numbers because i trust jack and think he's terrific. i come back and say listen, they've been wrong -- he's jack. i don't think that they're phony. it doesn't make me feel that jack is off the reservation so much that i think that this particular issue -- i disagree with him. i read the tweet and i was, darn, jack, come on, man. >> let's say good is good. >> does this mark the turning point and we had david come out this morning where he was establishing 1575 and that's quite an upside for 2013 particularly if he's standing by a year-
honest tonight on the program. the tweet that launched a conspiracy, jack welch tweeted this morning about today's jobs nurl, quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do anything. it is a huge claim that of course set the political financial world abuzz. we're going the talk to jack welch live about it when he joins me at the top of the hour. also, tonight, how one woman's alleged lie working in a crime lab in massachusetts is calling into question, get this. 34,000 criminal cases. 34,000. people already being released from jail because of this woman's suspected fraud. it is an unbelievable story. all that and a lot more you need to know about the meningitis outbreak, two different scares. >> sounds like a great show. i hope everybody stays tuned. our fifth story "outfront", gunk. american airlines now says messy passengers are to blame for seats that came loose an at least three recent flights. the airline claims spilled soda and coffee gunked up a seat locking mechanism over time. the incidents forced the airline to take 48 boeing 757 jets out of commission for repai
. not everyone convinced, though. yesterday jack welch, the former chairman and ceo of ge, tweeted unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. he's obviously very influential man. when he tweets, people listen. is there any way that these kinds of numbers can be manipulated? >> he tweets, people listen, they retweet, they write about it and we certainly talked about it a lon on cnbc. the fact of the matter is the bureau of labor statistics has been calculating this number since 1948. it's a scientific survey. they poll 140,000 businesses. you definitely have a giant sample here. what some people are saying is a possibility is that the type of businesses sampled were ones that were skewed towards jobs added. those place where is they might have add more part-time workers. we also saw a giant jump in the number of people employed from the age group of 20 to 24. the biggest jump since 1964. some of these businesses that employed more young people being pulled? it's unlikely. it's really an issue of how much data you can actually get together in 3
months now. the economic situation is getting better. >> i think it's the opposite of what jack welch was saying. we talk about jack welch and what he said and the conspiracy theory, but the thing is, he said given the economy -- >> that's not even what i'm getting at. >> people feel fundamentally better about the state of the economy. >> did i say i love jack welch? >> forget what jack welch said. i'm talking about people who are trying to say that perhaps people have given up. and if you look into the numbers of the bureau of labor and statistics put out, the number of people who are discouraged and have given up has gone down in the past year by 235,000. and in the past four years, by over 400,000. that number is being skewed out there by those who want to say that the job numbers aren't what they appear to be. long-term unemployment is still very, very high, but those people are still looking. >> the u-6 number for those cognizant. >> coming up -- >> you're right. republicans are in the dumps. you're right. >> no, they're trying to pretend the numbers that they depend on when they
in the an employment rate on just 114,000 jobs growth in the month surprising to jack welch, former ceo of ge. here is what he said. >> well, and the last two months we have gone from 83-81. now we are going to 7.8% by changing the numbers assumptions. like. i don't know if -- what the right number is. i tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. gerri: gary, to you first. is the bls giving as ps? >> it is the bs. look. three months ago i said that even if we got newt we would be under 8% because the politics of it. we saw 30 days ago the fed announced a open ended printing of money to get asset prices up, and they say 50 days before election, this one is a joke. if you noticed anything about this number, the estimates of job gains came in the exact amount it was supposed to which should have kept it at 8.2%. the estimates, somehow we got to 7.8%, and the use the most of tiles survey, the household survey. gerri: we will get to that. >> 400,000. gerri: can these numbers be sai's? >> i don't think they can. we have had rumors of bls massaging numbe
fell to below 8%? also jack welch, the former ge guy. >> yep. >> he's tweeting this morning and saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. i mean -- so is it possible the labor department is lying or has changed these numbers in some way? >> look, these numbers are often revised. usually when you have a vibrant growing jobs market a revision of 86,000 doesn't make any difference at all. you have much more jobs being created. we don't have that right now. in terms of why the two numbers are different, there are two different surveys the government does. hou household survey where they ask people wheer they're employed and a company survey where they ask companies how many people are employed. those are two different numbers. so that's why you have the number of jobs created or lost and the jobless rate. that's the technical data gathering reason. as for -- look, you'll hear conservatives say either they don't trust these numbers or they're going to say, look, 114,000 is the important number to look at here. that's not good en
with numbers here. jobs numbers. a big supporter of your campaign, jack welch, sent out a tweet on friday after the unemployment report came out showing 7.8% unemployment, and jack welch wrote unbelieve jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. do you stand by this comment from jack welch? do you think that the white house cooked the numbers in the jobs report? >> well look, we're just going to talk about the facts. there's 23 million americans who are unemployed. they're either looking for a job, they are giving up or underemployed. if we just look at the numbers and take that for what it's worth, and i don't know that we have to say much more about whether the numbers have been cooked or not. >> the numbers are also 7.8% unemployment the lowest since president obama was inaugurated, correct? >> well, let's take a look at those numbers and take a little deeper look and say, for those who are not looking for a job any longer, they're not in the work place. they're not in the work participation. if you were to add those to those numbers, we'd have abo
the guest host, squawk market taylor, jack welch tweeted that maybe this number's been played with. >> those chicago guys will do anything. >> by the way, don't miss "squawk box" on monday and we'll be talking with carly fiorina former chairman and ceo of hp. >>> final thoughts from our guest host john taylor of fs concepts. we were just talking about this tweet from jack welch. he tweeted, unbelievable numbers. the chicago guys will do everything. can't debate the numbers. it is lighting up the tweet sphere. >> there was a huge 873,000 increase in the household survey exceeding the 418 in the labor force. a lot of these numbers, is there wiggle room? there's assumptions, right? >> there's a lot of wiggle room. they're calling up people on the phone. who knows who answers the phone? nowadays you have cell phones and you're not going to answer the phone at home. my phone won't be answered because you'll say that's some weird person polling me. >> although some would say how come it goes and not above. that is volatile. >> because of that, don't trust the number like that. steve had the right
that there is further proof that the economy continues to heal. others not so sure. jack welch tweeted this moments ago. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers end quote. martha: hilda so liz says that that notion is lewd today rust. joined by chris wallace anchor of fox news sunday . good morning, chris. >> good to be with you. martha: what do you make about the backlash for this 7.8 number? >> it's understandable, because it's good news for president obama at a time when he very much needed it. the fact is that he had a bad debate, that his campaign was raoeulgs a reeling, is an overstatement but hit a serious pothole. and the talking point, which is that the unemployment rate under this president has been over 8% for 48 months, they can't say that any more. and obviously some romney supporters aren't happy about that. martha: whenever you look at the economic numbers i always wonder. obviously as you point out the president's detractors will try to mine mice the number and the president will build it up. it's down to everyone's individual econo
and significant decrease in the unemployment rate. jack welch, he went to as far to suggest that the numbers may be manipulated by the obama administration. do you think that the numbers add up? >> i think the suggestion that the numbers was cooked is relatively ridiculous. that being said. economists at the labor department will admit freely that there is a lot of margin of error in these numbers. a month after each job report these numbers are revised upward or downward. the question of the number came out of the household survey, 800,000 plus number, there is a lot of margin for error, possibly as much as 400,000. that is admitted by folks within the labor department, as well. i think you can't get too hung up on the overall numbers because typically these are revised upward or downward. that tends to happen a month later when we stop paying attention. >> heather: what will the numbers do in terms of swaying voters' opinions, specifically undecided voter? do you expect to see a change in the polls as a result of this? >> it's a tough question. i generally think the jobs reports do not move as
on the jack welch tweet. >> you wonder why institutions in this country are the perception of institutions in the country are failing because people go on tv and make stuff up. ask for the evidence and he said he had none. >> we continue to make progress. 31 consecutive months of private sector job growth. certainly we are not where we want to be. >> many analysts who combed through the unemployment data released attribute the decline to a big increase in part-time work. people looking for full-time jobs unable to find them and they are settling for part-time jobs. there were some 582,000 new part-time jobs created last month. the bureau of labor statistics categorizes the number as "part time for economic reasons." not exactly a vote of confidence in the state of the economy, shannon. >> shannon: all right, doug. a lot more on the numbers. we will break them down later with ben stein, well known economist and author and humorist as well. we might need a little bit of that. thank you, doug. is the lower unemployment number going bolster president obama's reelection bid or be ammunition for
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